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emfcamp2014 [2014-08-25 15:14] – [Who's going?] dkozelemfcamp2014 [2014-08-28 23:04] – [Who's going?] tim
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 | Nick | definitely | D1 | - | minibus | | Nick | definitely | D1 | - | minibus |
 | Sean | definitely | D1 | yes | minibus (driving) | | Sean | definitely | D1 | yes | minibus (driving) |
-| Martin | maybe | | | minibus (tbc, will pay anyway) |+| Martin | definitely | | | minibus 
 +| River | | | | minibus | 
 +| Derek | | USA (B?| No | minibus |
 | <del>Marcel</del> | <del>no</del> | <del>B</del> | - | | | <del>Marcel</del> | <del>no</del> | <del>B</del> | - | |
 | <del>pozorvlak</del> | <del>no</del> | | | | | <del>pozorvlak</del> | <del>no</del> | | | |
-| Derek | | USA (B?) | No | minibus | 
  
-One person has contacted us via the EMF car sharing page and asked for a lift to Stockport or Manchester on Monday. Since we have several southbound-only passengers we can probably accommodate this, but need to work out how much of detour we can take. **TODO: Respond.**+One person has contacted us via the EMF car sharing page and asked for a lift to Stockport or Manchester on Monday. Tim has replied indicating that we have space but we would want to limit the length of any detour. She will probably take the train instead.
  
 ===== What are we bringing? ===== ===== What are we bringing? =====
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 Definitely: Definitely:
  
 +  * 12V USB and 150W inverter for the ride (Tim)
   * 35l box for SMD workshop (Hacklab)   * 35l box for SMD workshop (Hacklab)
   * BBQ (Al) and charcoal (to be bought)   * BBQ (Al) and charcoal (to be bought)
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   * Foldy table (Bart)   * Foldy table (Bart)
   * Gas hob and cartridges (Mike)   * Gas hob and cartridges (Mike)
 +  * Gas hob (Bart)
   * Saucepans (Hacklab)   * Saucepans (Hacklab)
   * Number plate!   * Number plate!
   * ~3L water bag   * ~3L water bag
-  * 16A to 4x13A 25m extension cable (Tim)+  * 25m extension cable, 16A plug, USB adapters (Tim)
  
 Maybe: Maybe:
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   * Vango Orchy 5 berth tent as possible shared area (Nick)   * Vango Orchy 5 berth tent as possible shared area (Nick)
   * Tassimo ?   * Tassimo ?
 +  * Large cooking pot (Nick)
 +  * Wok (Nick)
  
 Wanted: Wanted:
  
   * Gazebo or tarp (and rigging) for shared living area   * Gazebo or tarp (and rigging) for shared living area
-  * 2nd gas hob 
   * Tea/coffee/sugar/milk   * Tea/coffee/sugar/milk
   * Bin bags   * Bin bags
   * Other food/cooking supplies...   * Other food/cooking supplies...
   * Stovetop kettle (2 litre?) - http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9278479.htm   * Stovetop kettle (2 litre?) - http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9278479.htm
 +
 +===== Meals =====
 +
 +If you think you'd like to organise a meal, add your name below and your suggested meal.  Helpers needed too, since there will potentially be 12 people to feed!
 +
 +Three evening meals (Friday, Saturday and Sunday), possibly also three breakfasts (Saturday, Sunday, and Monday). I am guessing lunches will be more ad-hoc. [Since we will also have a BBQ, we don't need to cover all possible meal times. --Tim]
 +
 +^ Who                  ^ Suggested meal(s)                    ^ cooks' constraints, comments ^ Required ^
 +| Nick + ...           | Instant rice & coconut veg curry | Needs 1 large pot, stirring spoon, chopping knife large bowl or pot for rice+water | 6x (or 2x 4-pack) [[http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=251442835|boil in the bag basmati]], 6x [[http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=277017159|Spice tailor kerulan curry]], 8x peppers, 1x [[http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=266244436|bag quorn pieces]] x 2, 2x punnet mushrooms, 6x onions, 1x bag peas, 1x bag cashews, 2x 8-pack of tortilla wraps |
 +|Bart + ...| Chicken Fajitas and Beer | Contains meat. Roll your own. | 1Kg Chicken, 4 peppers, 4 onions, Sour Cream, Block of Cheese, Cheese Grater, Lettuce, 20+ Wraps, Few sachets of Fajita Mix, Salsa, Tortilla Chips |
 +|Peter + ... | Vegetarian Spaghetti "Bolognese" |Vegetarian, Large Frying pan and pot for pasta | [[http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=265387631|500g quorn mince]], 2 x 500g packets of spaghetti, 6 onions, 4 tins/packets of chopped tomatoes, garlic, ~6 mushrooms|    
 +
 +
 +Fuel, food and utensil requirements also needed, may need reviewing once suggestions are in. The aim is to know what to buy / bring.  Add these to the "shopping" and "bringing" lists.  Cost of shopping to be shared.
 +
 +Individual dietary restrictions / preferences, which might the affect choice of meals:
 +
 +  * Nick: no meat, fish, or peanuts please. Shrimps ok.
 +
  
 ===== Shopping ===== ===== Shopping =====
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   * BBQ charcoal (what size?)   * BBQ charcoal (what size?)
   * Milk (1L)   * Milk (1L)
 +  * UHT Milk 3 x 1L (limited fridge space)
 +  * Porrage Oats (1kg)
 +  * Cooking oil (0.5L)
 +  * Paper/plastic plates, cutlery for ~12 people, 3 meals
 +  * Kitchen roll
 +  * Toilet roll
 +  * Cups
 +  * Bread?
 +  * Butter?
 +  * Jam?
 +  * Fruit? - 
 +  * Booze? 
 +  * Sausages and burgers for BBQ
 +  * Veggie sausages for BBQ?
 +  * Kebab ingredients
 +  * Rolls
 +  * Ketchup
 +  * Eggs
 +
 +There is a [[http://www.tesco.com/store-locator/uk/|Tesco]] on the EMF-recommended route, at Kingston [[https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.0367247,-0.6885741,17z|MK10 0AH]].
  
 ===== Projects/Workshops ===== ===== Projects/Workshops =====
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 Sean has booked and paid for the minibus. Total cost will be £700-800 so the per-person cost should be under £80. Everyone should pay Sean £80 (see your email for the bank details) and he will refund the excess when the final numbers are known. Sean has booked and paid for the minibus. Total cost will be £700-800 so the per-person cost should be under £80. Everyone should pay Sean £80 (see your email for the bank details) and he will refund the excess when the final numbers are known.
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-==== All the options ==== 
- 
-9 seat minibus: Only requires a car license (B category), and most likely a minimum age of 25. Hacklab hired one of these for EMF 2012. 
- 
-9-17 seat minibus: Requires a D1 category license. Car drivers who passed before 1997-01-01 will usually have this. Tim asked [[http://shortselfdrive.com/|Short Self Drive]] about their driver requirements for 10+ seat minibuses and they replied "We hire to anyone who holds a D1 licence  as long as they are over 25 and under 75". Tim thinks we would still need two or more D1 drivers to make this a sensible option.  
- 
-Cars: If we have enough cars available for the group then this might be preferable as it will eliminate the hire charge. The journey would be faster too as minibuses are subject to lower speed limits. 
- 
-**Costs for various options (return trip = 728 miles):** 
- 
-  * 9-seat minibus from Shorts: £500 hire, £140 fuel (less wild guess), £15 parking (total ~£655 or ~£73pp) 
-  * 17-seat minibus from Shorts: £600 hire, £200 fuel (less wild guess), £15 parking (total ~£815 or ~£48pp) 
-  * cargo van from Shorts: £245 hire, £140 fuel (less wild guess), £15 parking (total ~£400) 
-  * Tim's 4-seat car: £120 fuel (reasonable guess), <del>£45 insurance for second driver,</del> £15 parking (total ~£135 or ~£34pp) 
-  * Sean's 4/5-seat car: £145 fuel (reasonable estimate), £15 parking. (Total ~£160 or ~£32/40pp) 
- 
-__**Notes:**__\\ 
-[[http://www.condorselfdrive.co.uk/vehicle-hire/vehicle-hire.php?type=Minibus|Condor]] possibly a little cheaper and central than Shorts. --Nick\\ 
-If I do the hiring, Dalkeith will be more convenient for me. --Tim\\ 
-Above PP estimates assume all //seats// are full. - Sean 
- 
-//**Sean's (rough!) guide to Fuel Costs:**// (730 miles/Diesel@ 130p/L)\\ 
-20 mpg = £213\\ 
-25 mpg = £170\\ 
-30 mpg = £143\\ 
-35 mpg = £122\\ 
-40 mpg = £107\\ 
-\\ 
-I'm no expert in the field, but I'd consider anything above 30mpg or 20mpg from a loaded 9 or 17 seat minibus as pretty good going.\\ 
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