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emfcamp2014 [2014-08-25 15:14] – [Who's going?] dkozel | emfcamp2014 [2014-08-28 23:04] – [Who's going?] tim | ||
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| Nick | definitely | D1 | - | minibus | | | Nick | definitely | D1 | - | minibus | | ||
| Sean | definitely | D1 | yes | minibus (driving) | | | Sean | definitely | D1 | yes | minibus (driving) | | ||
- | | Martin | maybe | | | minibus (tbc, will pay anyway) | | + | | Martin | definitely |
+ | | River | | | | minibus | | ||
+ | | Derek | | USA (B?) | No | minibus | ||
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| < | | < | ||
- | | Derek | | USA (B?) | No | minibus | | ||
- | One person has contacted us via the EMF car sharing page and asked for a lift to Stockport or Manchester on Monday. | + | One person has contacted us via the EMF car sharing page and asked for a lift to Stockport or Manchester on Monday. |
===== What are we bringing? ===== | ===== What are we bringing? ===== | ||
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Definitely: | Definitely: | ||
+ | * 12V USB and 150W inverter for the ride (Tim) | ||
* 35l box for SMD workshop (Hacklab) | * 35l box for SMD workshop (Hacklab) | ||
* BBQ (Al) and charcoal (to be bought) | * BBQ (Al) and charcoal (to be bought) | ||
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* Foldy table (Bart) | * Foldy table (Bart) | ||
* Gas hob and cartridges (Mike) | * Gas hob and cartridges (Mike) | ||
+ | * Gas hob (Bart) | ||
* Saucepans (Hacklab) | * Saucepans (Hacklab) | ||
* Number plate! | * Number plate! | ||
* ~3L water bag | * ~3L water bag | ||
- | * 16A to 4x13A 25m extension cable (Tim) | + | * 25m extension cable, 16A plug, USB adapters |
Maybe: | Maybe: | ||
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* Vango Orchy 5 berth tent as possible shared area (Nick) | * Vango Orchy 5 berth tent as possible shared area (Nick) | ||
* Tassimo ? | * Tassimo ? | ||
+ | * Large cooking pot (Nick) | ||
+ | * Wok (Nick) | ||
Wanted: | Wanted: | ||
* Gazebo or tarp (and rigging) for shared living area | * Gazebo or tarp (and rigging) for shared living area | ||
- | * 2nd gas hob | ||
* Tea/ | * Tea/ | ||
* Bin bags | * Bin bags | ||
* Other food/ | * Other food/ | ||
* Stovetop kettle (2 litre?) - http:// | * Stovetop kettle (2 litre?) - http:// | ||
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+ | ===== Meals ===== | ||
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+ | If you think you'd like to organise a meal, add your name below and your suggested meal. Helpers needed too, since there will potentially be 12 people to feed! | ||
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+ | Three evening meals (Friday, Saturday and Sunday), possibly also three breakfasts (Saturday, Sunday, and Monday). I am guessing lunches will be more ad-hoc. [Since we will also have a BBQ, we don't need to cover all possible meal times. --Tim] | ||
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+ | ^ Who ^ Suggested meal(s) | ||
+ | | Nick + ... | Instant rice & coconut veg curry | Needs 1 large pot, stirring spoon, chopping knife large bowl or pot for rice+water | 6x (or 2x 4-pack) [[http:// | ||
+ | |Bart + ...| Chicken Fajitas and Beer | Contains meat. Roll your own. | 1Kg Chicken, 4 peppers, 4 onions, Sour Cream, Block of Cheese, Cheese Grater, Lettuce, 20+ Wraps, Few sachets of Fajita Mix, Salsa, Tortilla Chips | | ||
+ | |Peter + ... | Vegetarian Spaghetti " | ||
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+ | Fuel, food and utensil requirements also needed, may need reviewing once suggestions are in. The aim is to know what to buy / bring. | ||
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+ | Individual dietary restrictions / preferences, | ||
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+ | * Nick: no meat, fish, or peanuts please. Shrimps ok. | ||
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===== Shopping ===== | ===== Shopping ===== | ||
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* BBQ charcoal (what size?) | * BBQ charcoal (what size?) | ||
* Milk (1L) | * Milk (1L) | ||
+ | * UHT Milk 3 x 1L (limited fridge space) | ||
+ | * Porrage Oats (1kg) | ||
+ | * Cooking oil (0.5L) | ||
+ | * Paper/ | ||
+ | * Kitchen roll | ||
+ | * Toilet roll | ||
+ | * Cups | ||
+ | * Bread? | ||
+ | * Butter? | ||
+ | * Jam? | ||
+ | * Fruit? - | ||
+ | * Booze? | ||
+ | * Sausages and burgers for BBQ | ||
+ | * Veggie sausages for BBQ? | ||
+ | * Kebab ingredients | ||
+ | * Rolls | ||
+ | * Ketchup | ||
+ | * Eggs | ||
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+ | There is a [[http:// | ||
===== Projects/ | ===== Projects/ | ||
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Sean has booked and paid for the minibus. Total cost will be £700-800 so the per-person cost should be under £80. Everyone should pay Sean £80 (see your email for the bank details) and he will refund the excess when the final numbers are known. | Sean has booked and paid for the minibus. Total cost will be £700-800 so the per-person cost should be under £80. Everyone should pay Sean £80 (see your email for the bank details) and he will refund the excess when the final numbers are known. | ||
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- | ==== All the options ==== | ||
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- | 9 seat minibus: Only requires a car license (B category), and most likely a minimum age of 25. Hacklab hired one of these for EMF 2012. | ||
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- | 9-17 seat minibus: Requires a D1 category license. Car drivers who passed before 1997-01-01 will usually have this. Tim asked [[http:// | ||
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- | Cars: If we have enough cars available for the group then this might be preferable as it will eliminate the hire charge. The journey would be faster too as minibuses are subject to lower speed limits. | ||
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- | **Costs for various options (return trip = 728 miles):** | ||
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- | * 9-seat minibus from Shorts: £500 hire, £140 fuel (less wild guess), £15 parking (total ~£655 or ~£73pp) | ||
- | * 17-seat minibus from Shorts: £600 hire, £200 fuel (less wild guess), £15 parking (total ~£815 or ~£48pp) | ||
- | * cargo van from Shorts: £245 hire, £140 fuel (less wild guess), £15 parking (total ~£400) | ||
- | * Tim's 4-seat car: £120 fuel (reasonable guess), < | ||
- | * Sean's 4/5-seat car: £145 fuel (reasonable estimate), £15 parking. (Total ~£160 or ~£32/40pp) | ||
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- | __**Notes: | ||
- | [[http:// | ||
- | If I do the hiring, Dalkeith will be more convenient for me. --Tim\\ | ||
- | Above PP estimates assume all //seats// are full. - Sean | ||
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- | // | ||
- | 20 mpg = £213\\ | ||
- | 25 mpg = £170\\ | ||
- | 30 mpg = £143\\ | ||
- | 35 mpg = £122\\ | ||
- | 40 mpg = £107\\ | ||
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- | I'm no expert in the field, but I'd consider anything above 30mpg or 20mpg from a loaded 9 or 17 seat minibus as pretty good going.\\ | ||
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